WTB Sukenari Gyuto

[ButlerHoosierChef]

I am looking for Sukenari AS Damascus gyuto or KTip gyuto any size. Willing to trade or purchase! Thanks.

 

[bbrooks008]

20% off at MTC Kitchen this month

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Thank you I appreciate that. Looking specifically for AS Damascus.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Bump

 

[bbrooks008]

FRKZ version now in stock at JCK:
https://japanesechefsknife.com/collections/fu-rin-ka-zan-aogami-super-clad-wa-series

 

[daddy yo yo]

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/sukenari-240-ktip-sujihiki-zdp-189-hairline.49106/

 

[captaincaed]

Also try Fu Rin Ka Zan series from JCK. Made by Sukenari, but in my limited experience run a hair thinner, and suit my needs just a bit better. If that's your thing.
If anyone else has more experience, please chime in

 

[btbyrd]

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/sukenari-240-ktip-sujihiki-zdp-189-hairline.49106/

Not a gyuto, not AS damascus.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

I was looking for the high hardness AS Damascus that has an HRC at 66-67. I am wondering if these could be it or is that just the old runs of the Sukenari AS Damascus? Thank you.

 

[bbrooks008]

You might ask Koki at japanesechefsknife.com - he is very easy to work with

 

[Southpaw]

I’ve already gone thru this with Koki, the AS Sammy by Sukenari is discontinued due to its break rate during forging. I just got a fu Rin Ka Zan Aogami super Damascus Gyuto and I LOVE IT. It has a lot of belly which is the only thing I don’t like about it. But cuts amazing and the Damascus is great. But it’s by Yoshimitsu not Sukenari. Yoshimitsu makes the other half of the fu Rin Ka Zan lines

 

[Chicagohawkie]

I’ve already gone thru this with Koki, the AS Sammy by Sukenari is discontinued due to its break rate during forging. I just got a fu Rin Ka Zan Aogami super Damascus Gyuto and I LOVE IT. It has a lot of belly which is the only thing I don’t like about it. But cuts amazing and the Damascus is great. But it’s by Yoshimitsu not Sukenari. Yoshimitsu makes the other half of the fu Rin Ka Zan lines

FWIW, all that Sukenari nickle Damascus stuff is done with pre lam stock.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Honestly what I am looking for is the high hardness of the AS. In the Fu Rin Ka Zin and the new renditions of the Sulenari AS the knives are not as hard. Just really looking to see the difference.

 

[captaincaed]

Agreed. Reach out to the vendor. They're usually pretty straight with you. Good place to start.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

I have. They said that they have put in orders for them. Sukenari is trying to find the best way to present them with a lower failure rate. Seriously though I am very much lookin forward to when they can produce these blades. So anyone have a Sukenari AS Damascus gyuto they are willing to part with? Haha.

 

[FishmanDE]

Honestly what I am looking for is the high hardness of the AS. In the Fu Rin Ka Zin and the new renditions of the Sulenari AS the knives are not as hard. Just really looking to see the difference.

Tad off topic, but in your search for the gyuto, did you happen across any slicers with that high hardness available for sale?

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Isnt all knives slicers? Haha. Also to answer your question nope I haven't found anything yet. Still searching though.

 

[Southpaw]

Honestly what I am looking for is the high hardness of the AS. In the Fu Rin Ka Zin and the new renditions of the Sulenari AS the knives are not as hard. Just really looking to see the difference.

It’s true Sukenari heats up to like 66HRc while Yoshihiro does it to 63-64. It still has the best retention of all my knives tho.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

I have the Hap40 and ZDP189 and those things last forever before needing sharpened. I definitely want that in AS form.

 

[birdsfan]

There is a k-tip 270 Sukenari AS presently available on FleaBay.

 

[bbrooks008]

Does only the Damascus version have the high hardness?

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Yes I saw that. He wants a little much cause it doesn't even come with a handle.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Does only the Damascus version have the high hardness?

From my understanding yes. The other non Damascus was 63 to 64

 

[bbrooks008]

Seller on the Bay did say "high end hilt", so they might mean "[this is] just the blade [for you]". Still, i know you are looking for damascus instead

 

[Southpaw]

Honestly what I am looking for is the high hardness of the AS. In the Fu Rin Ka Zin and the new renditions of the Sulenari AS the knives are not as hard. Just really looking to see the difference.

You’re right, those new FRKZ SS clad AS by Sukenari that Koki has are 64 HRC, they used to treat it all the way up to 66.

I feel like they would be SUPER BRITTLE

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

see I thought the same thing but after talking to many people that have them I have come to find out they are not brittle at all. They are very tough and long lasting edge wise.

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Seller on the Bay did say "high end hilt", so they might mean "[this is] just the blade [for you]". Still, i know you are looking for damascus instead

Thank you though. I do appreciate it.

 

[Alder26]

see I thought the same thing but after talking to many people that have them I have come to find out they are not brittle at all. They are very tough and long lasting edge wise.

I would actually disagree with that assessment. I had a sukenari AS k tip for a while. The steel is by far the hardest I’ve used this far (I haven’t messed with the PM steels much and high carbide steels). Steel feels very glassy on stones and skates around a bit. I found the steel to be quite chippy and brittle. I ended up selling it because I felt it was very high maintenance with thin geometry.

 

[JoBone]

For the latest batches coming out - the HAP40 is 68 and AS is 65

 

[ButlerHoosierChef]

Bump still looking for Sukenari AS Damascus