Alternatives to chosera 400 for polishing

[labor of love]

Looking for something that can bridge my jump from 220 thinning stone and cerax 320 to 1k for polishing. I guess the common answer would be one of the kings? I dunno, I’m not felling chosera 400 so what else do people like to use pre 1k-2k?

 

[mrmoves92]

Shapton Glass 500

 

[labor of love]

Shapton Glass 500

I was really hoping someone would say that!

 

[M1k3]

Shapton Glass 500

This is the way.

 

[user 16756]

+1 Shapton Glass 500.

Though I will say I like the Chosera 400 too

 

[ReiHamono]

Or hop on the diamond wagon

 

[Heckel7302]

Just did some work on a bevel with SG500 last night. Worked a treat as a step between SP220 and Gesshin 1200.

 

[tostadas]

Yep +1 sg500

 

[labor of love]

Just did some work on a bevel with SG500 last night. Worked a treat as a step between SP220 and Gesshin 1200.

Yeah gesh 1200 is my next stone acquisition for sure. Purchased SP220 yesterday after using the SG220 for a month which was kinda meh but the price is right and it seems to do a good job double duty as stone flattener. My sigma 240? Is almost dead so hopefully SP220 works out. Also SG500 is only $35 on Amazon so it’s a no brainer

 

[Choppin]

SG500, but get the double thick version

@labor of love do you like the SP220, compared to the SG220? I’m familiar with the SG but haven’t tried the SP yet.

 

[labor of love]

SG500, but get the double thick version

@labor of love do you like the SP220, compared to the SG220? I’m familiar with the SG but haven’t tried the SP yet.

I ordered the SP220 yesterday so I have no idea. SG220 is fine for the price, my main gripe is that the feedback is too muted.
Sigma Power feels better and cuts faster IMO.

 

[ReiHamono]

I bought the Simga 240 yesterday, I’m curious

 

[labor of love]

I bought the Simga 240 yesterday, I’m curious

Where? I’d definitely rebuy one for $60 but if they cost more than that I might as well get a debado.

 

[ReiHamono]

Bought it here
https://www.heartwoodtools.com/sigm...es/sigma-power-select-ii-water-stone-240-grit
You should consider the CGSW 160
https://www.gritomatic.com/products...n-bonded-diamond?_pos=31&_sid=879578fe6&_ss=r
If that’s too expensive for you then look at the Gritomatic 120 (ask them to order)
https://www.gritomatic.com/products/8-x-3-silicon-carbide-sharpening-stone

 

[labor of love]

Bought it here
https://www.heartwoodtools.com/sigm...es/sigma-power-select-ii-water-stone-240-grit
You should consider the CGSW 160
https://www.gritomatic.com/products...n-bonded-diamond?_pos=31&_sid=879578fe6&_ss=r
If that’s too expensive for you then look at the Gritomatic 120 (ask them to order)
https://www.gritomatic.com/products/8-x-3-silicon-carbide-sharpening-stone

Awesome sigma price! Everything else is a hard pass from me though

 

[KasumiJLA]

Since shapton is always coarser than the indicated grit, I use Shapton 120-220-320, Naniwa 400, Shapton 1k and Naniwa pro 1k.

Shapton 1k is more in the 700~800 and Naniwa 1k around 1,2k. I never felt the need to have anything else And if I feel funky, I can use an amakusa before my 1k too!

 

[KenjiF]

Is it a naniwa chosera 1k your jumping to? SG 500 is a good option. Or a diamond 400. I use a nanohone diamond resin here. It leaves a super clear finish (almost like a super fine belt sander finish) so I can see mistakes and the scratches are so shallow that it’s easy to remove. It’s ‘spoungy’ so not the most accurate stone but I’ll use harder stones before and after to make sure I’m still accurate…

 

[jedy617]

Is it a naniwa chosera 1k your jumping to? SG 500 is a good option. Or a diamond 400. I use a nanohone diamond resin here. It leaves a super clear finish (almost like a super fine belt sander finish) so I can see mistakes and the scratches are so shallow that it’s easy to remove. It’s ‘spoungy’ so not the most accurate stone but I’ll use harder stones before and after to make sure I’m still accurate…

Sounds interesting...what grit gets you that finish?

 

[KenjiF]

The 100um. But it’s much finer than that. It’s about a 400grit. I bought it originally for thinning but it’s too slow. Here is a knife I ran over just now for 45 seconds.

 

[KenjiF]

Hap says the diamonds aren’t pointy which is why I think the scratches are so easy to remove. I think the abrasive is a rounder shape so doesn’t cut as deep.

 

[KenjiF]

Here is the chosera 1k deleting the scratches in 30 seconds.

 

[jedy617]

Interesting. I wonder if the 200 would be good for thinning while leaving a good finish

 

[labor of love]

Is it a naniwa chosera 1k your jumping to? SG 500 is a good option. Or a diamond 400. I use a nanohone diamond resin here. It leaves a super clear finish (almost like a super fine belt sander finish) so I can see mistakes and the scratches are so shallow that it’s easy to remove. It’s ‘spoungy’ so not the most accurate stone but I’ll use harder stones before and after to make sure I’m still accurate…

Jumping to cerax 1k

 

[ReiHamono]

I have an unused Nanohone 200 micron diamond resin that I’m going to sell

 

[labor of love]

Here is the chosera 1k deleting the scratches in 30 seconds.

Yeah my blade roads usually look like ass coming off chosera 1k. Guess I need more work on the lower grits. SG500 can’t get here soon enough!

 

[MowgFace]

Hard to beat $35!

We’re it me I think I’d go Gesshin 400, with my king 800 to follow.

 

[Choppin]

Hard to beat $35!

We’re it me I think I’d go Gesshin 400, with my king 800 to follow.

the Gesshin 400 is fantastic, forgot about that one. it’s from the same “line” as the Gesh 2000 - cuts fast, feels nice, leaves a nice and even finish.

 

[KenjiF]

Interesting. I wonder if the 200 would be good for thinning while leaving a good finish

I prefer harder stones for thinning. Also these stones aren’t that fast unless you dress it with a course grit stone (I use my Shapton 180).

 

[KenjiF]

I used to use that exact progression. My cerax 1k would delete the 320 scratches with a bit of elbow grease. The problem I found was that both stones are such a mud bath that it’s hard to tell if you actually got rid of the previous scratches. If you have a rust eraser and run it across the bevel it will get rid of the dark Kasumi on bevel and let you see if there are any stray scratches. That was my process until I moved to SG, diamond and chosera. Last little tip… I’d be carful on the muddy soft stones near the shinogi. Just use light pressure on shinogi. They will reach above where a hard stone will and those scratches will be a pain in the ass when you move to higher grits.

 

[labor of love]

I used to use that exact progression. My cerax 1k would delete the 320 scratches with a bit of elbow grease. The problem I found was that both stones are such a mud bath that it’s hard to tell if you actually got rid of the previous scratches. If you have a rust eraser and run it across the bevel it will get rid of the dark Kasumi on bevel and let you see if there are any stray scratches. That was my process until I moved to SG, diamond and chosera. Last little tip… I’d be carful on the muddy soft stones near the shinogi. Just use light pressure on shinogi. They will reach above where a hard stone will and those scratches will be a pain in the ass when you move to higher grits.

I do have a rust eraser. Thanks for the tip I’ll try it