chinese cleaver questions

[Wagnum]

Sometimes when I'm sharpening a large heavy cleaver like a Moritaka when I go to sharpen the backside of the blade I'll flip the knife so the handle is facing up and just grip the knife at the spine so I can still use my dominant hand. I'll take some pics later if I remember

 

[M1k3]

Sometimes when I'm sharpening a large heavy cleaver like a Moritaka when I go to sharpen the backside of the blade I'll flip the knife so the handle is facing up and just grip the knife at the spine so I can still use my dominant hand. I'll take some pics later if I remember

Mazaki, is that you?

 

[BillHanna]

Plastic wrap.

I let it get dirty, then send it to you

 

[Wagnum]

Mazaki, is that you?

 

[Wagnum]

I.... I mean Mazaki does it at around two minutes into this video


I'm pretty sure this is where I got the idea from

 

[r0bz]

Sometimes when I'm sharpening a large heavy cleaver like a Moritaka when I go to sharpen the backside of the blade I'll flip the knife so the handle is facing up and just grip the knife at the spine so I can still use my dominant hand. I'll take some pics later if I remember

please take some pics
also why does it help to do it the mazaki method instead of just gripping the handle ?

 

[Kawa]

Its all about being able to put the right pressure at the right places.
If you can do that with the knive between your toes, do it. It doesn't matter.

Just have an open attitude in trying what works for you. Copying someone and holding to that doesn't expand the horizon.

 

[mengwong]

Just have an open attitude in trying what works for you. Copying someone and holding to that doesn't expand the horizon.

The idea of "FAFO" has gotten a bad rap lately, but it's the most basic way of learning things: even before a toddler can ask a question, a baby already knows how to probe the world. Never forget how to be like a little baby. Especially when your hands are already covered in mud.

 

[stringer]

The idea of "FAFO" has gotten a bad rap lately, but it's the most basic way of learning things: even before a toddler can ask a question, a baby already knows how to probe the world. Never forget how to be like a little baby. Especially when your hands are already covered in mud.

F*** around and find out?

 

[HumbleHomeCook]

F*** around and find out?

If only there was more of that happening.

 

[Wagnum]

please take some pics
also why does it help to do it the mazaki method instead of just gripping the handle ?

I posted a video. It helps me because I have a hard time keeping a consistent angle on the backside if I just flip the blade normally and I'm not amazing at switching hands so it allows me to continue using my dominant hand and because cleavers are so blade heavy the weight of the handle not being in your hand is negligible. It works for me but definitely isn't the only way to skin this cat

 

[TokushuKnife]

Sometimes when I'm sharpening a large heavy cleaver like a Moritaka when I go to sharpen the backside of the blade I'll flip the knife so the handle is facing up and just grip the knife at the spine so I can still use my dominant hand. I'll take some pics later if I remember

Nice! Man, whatever you can make work with these beasts. I use the Bob Kramer sweep method on them. Really easy to lose your angle on these otherwise. Interested to see your photos.

 

[r0bz]

Nice! Man, whatever you can make work with these beasts. I use the Bob Kramer sweep method on them. Really easy to lose your angle on these otherwise. Interested to see your photos.

what is the bob kramer sweep ?
video

 

[TokushuKnife]

what is the bob kramer sweep ?
video

Bob Kramer Sharpening

 

[r0bz]

Bob Kramer Sharpening

I remember seeing it a long time ago
how does he develop a burr if he is doing edge leading and trailing?
the edge leading degrades the burr

 

[TokushuKnife]

I remember seeing it a long time ago
how does he develop a burr if he is doing edge leading and trailing?
the edge leading degrades the burr

Good question lol. I form the burr in my first sweep pitting pressure on the edge with my fingers like normal. On the other side I do the sweep edge leading and trailing. I assume the original burr is mostly removed, and you can visually account for stock removal on the back. End of the day there is a nice apex and it performs well in my opinion.

 

[Wagnum]

Nice! Man, whatever you can make work with these beasts. I use the Bob Kramer sweep method on them. Really easy to lose your angle on these otherwise. Interested to see your photos.

Here's a poorly lit photo but you get the idea. Bonus points if you can guess what's in the takeout container

 

[TokushuKnife]

Here's a poorly lit photo but you get the idea. Bonus points if you can guess what's in the takeout container

Mexican rice with queso

 

[Wagnum]

Mexican rice with queso

Chana masala. Unfortunately there's no real Mexican food near me but there are lots of Indian places

 

[TokushuKnife]

Chana masala. Unfortunately there's no real Mexican food near me but there are lots of Indian places

We have no Indian food here so had to shoot my shot lol

 

[r0bz]

Here's a poorly lit photo but you get the idea. Bonus points if you can guess what's in the takeout container

what method do you use to sharpen this beauty ?
regular flip or switch hands or mazaki method ?

 

[Wagnum]

what method do you use to sharpen this beauty ?
regular flip or switch hands or mazaki method ?

The photo shows how I grip while sharpening the backside. I just grip it normally by the handle on the front

 

[Wagnum]

I should point out that I'm securing it by pushing up with the three fingers that are on the back and locking it in with my thumb and pointer finger