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I know this may have taken much skill and time to make but for me, that is not pleasant to look at. I don't know if it is the handle along with the blade or the large pattern on the blade or both but it does not work for me.
I agree! Not a looker, unlike this...
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"America's foremost knife smith" is pushing it. Certainly the most hyped.
Opinions and experiences vary, but he is easily the most successful. Name another Smith with major brands making replicas. Also, its an article, adjectives are their selling points.
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I was speaking mainly from a blade smithing perspective.The rest is just marketing and promotion by mainstream characters like Bordain
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Looks like Bob got himself a Businessy McBusinessman copywriter:
“We have pushed the boundaries of traditional bladesmithing to bring you our interpretation of a tessellation in steel while demonstrating the limits of forge welding to date. Escher’s mathematical inspired style has always captured our attention here at Kramer Knives. Our first all-metal knife was inspired by the Pegasus tessellation and was intricately engraved by Mastersmith Tom Ferry. The blade is made from high nickel and shop-made Damascus, hardened to 62 HRC. To complete the look, this knife comes with a museum quality display stand made from ebony.”
That is a sign of pretty significant success, even if it makes me want to throw up a bit.
As far as the knife itself goes, to me this misses the mark and I have a hard time seeing it as an artistic exercise. But, I have little doubt there's a buyer for this. I think more than enough people equate exclusivity with taste for someone to shell out for this.
I think Bourdain's knife at 230gs is a better value, personally. That one has some provenance, at least, even if it is ghoulish to pick over the man's corpse like that.
“We have pushed the boundaries of traditional bladesmithing to bring you our interpretation of a tessellation in steel while demonstrating the limits of forge welding to date. Escher’s mathematical inspired style has always captured our attention here at Kramer Knives. Our first all-metal knife was inspired by the Pegasus tessellation and was intricately engraved by Mastersmith Tom Ferry. The blade is made from high nickel and shop-made Damascus, hardened to 62 HRC. To complete the look, this knife comes with a museum quality display stand made from ebony.”
That is a sign of pretty significant success, even if it makes me want to throw up a bit.
As far as the knife itself goes, to me this misses the mark and I have a hard time seeing it as an artistic exercise. But, I have little doubt there's a buyer for this. I think more than enough people equate exclusivity with taste for someone to shell out for this.
I think Bourdain's knife at 230gs is a better value, personally. That one has some provenance, at least, even if it is ghoulish to pick over the man's corpse like that.
So how do you compare your original Kramer to your favorite maker?
mpier
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I would rather have one of these for 3k or ten of them, honestly that’s an ugly Kramer
Possibly the ugliest knife I ever saw... and somewhat reminding very cheap Chinese knives sold by roaming peddlers, you know the ones in a cheap plastic sheath, written "Very sharp knife" on a sticker, and with a blade and handle patterned loudly and ugly as you wouldn't believe...
Wait, Kramer has bought one and re-handled it?
Then Zwilling bought 10000, sanded off the China imprint, and will be selling soon at 799$.
Then Zwilling bought 10000, sanded off the China imprint, and will be selling soon at 799$.
I'm a huge damascus fan and really dislike this, but its subjective.
50k is only excessive for a portion of the population, me included.
Damascus can be beautiful, I don't think there's much denying that. Not to say "most beautiful". I myself am all for plain finishes with plain handles, find it sexier. When perusing the New Knife thread however I see a whole lot of amazingly beautiful Dammy.
It needs to be perceived as a piece of art, not a knife, really. Now whether you like that piece of art is a different and entirely subjective point. I don't, it makes my eyes hurt (I have general dislike for high contrast in damascus blades).
CatWithAHat
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I gotta agree. I would totally rather buy makie series of Japanese blacksmiths at a much lower price than this.
Nah. Can’t stand Damascus, can’t stand that knife.I think we found the correlation
Although I’d prefer a world where I’d feel safe visiting the city it’s named after, love Syrian food.
It isn't even a piece of art, in the true sense of aesthetically pleasing, or soul lifting... it's a piece of technique. For 50$ I wouldn't put this sh1t on display, so we're not speaking art. We're speaking someone that will buy it because Kramer made it with a unprecedented technique for a kitchen knife.
spaceconvoy
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but it is Art, because it's provoked all this discussion and controversy
Word. "Art" is not the same as "Art that I like".
For what its worth I think its hideous and cannot believe it's going for $50k.
With that said, I've owned 2 original Kramers and it was (sold 1) my favorite performer. And I've owned a lot of top tier knives.
With that said, I've owned 2 original Kramers and it was (sold 1) my favorite performer. And I've owned a lot of top tier knives.
I can appreciate the talent and work that went into this. Not my cup of tea though.
Whatever, I think it's pretty cool. Obviously I'm not going to drop $50k on it, but the technical work is stunning and it's a neat reference to an artist I dig.
people think ugly sh1t is art, lol. just like autotune mumble rap is music.
People think a Henckle International is a tremendous knife, and make controversy about toilet paper. If you don’t mind I’ll stick with the truer sense of Art. This is an astounding display of technique and craftsmanship. It’s also 10K worth of (ill) collection piece at best for 40K worth of recent hype around and actual selling of auction Kramers.
