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sled_god

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LOCATION
What country are you in?

Usa

KNIFE TYPE
What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chefs knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)?

Gyuto in 240 and a boning knife

Are you right or left handed?

Righr

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?


240 for the gyuto and not beholden to length onn the boning

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)

Yes for both

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?

250-300 for gyuto, 100-125 for boning


KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?


Pro

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)


For the gyuto it'll be mostly veg prep but also a line knife so I'll be be occasionally slicing sandwiches, wraps, etc.

For the boning knife mostly cleaning and butterflying chicken breast and trimming beef. No bones.

What knife, if any, are you replacing?

For the gyuto a miyabi kaizen II 9.5" and the boner just the house **** knives.

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for the common types of grips.)

Pinch

What cutting motions do you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for types of cutting motions and identify the two or three most common cutting motions, in order of most used to least used.)


Push, chop, rock...it's more about the task than being beholden to a motion. I'm not abusing anything other than the house knives.

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)


My biggest issue is food release.

Better aesthetics (e.g., a certain type of finish; layered/Damascus or other pattern of steel; different handle color/pattern/shape/wood; better scratch resistance; better stain resistance)?

I do like how Damascus (or other finishes) hide scratches and wear but it's just a tool. I'm more worried about performance.

Comfort (e.g., lighter/heavier knife; better handle material; better handle shape; rounded spine/choil of the knife; improved balance)?

I do prefer things on the lighter and slender side.


Ease of Use (e.g., ability to use the knife right out of the box; smoother rock chopping, push cutting, or slicing motion; less wedging; better food release; less reactivity with food; easier to sharpen)?

Edge Retention (i.e., length of time you want the edge to last without sharpening)?

In general I touch my knives up once a week so I'd prefer more than that isn't necessary

KNIFE MAINTENANCE
Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board? (Yes or no.)

Pro environment so typical boards

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)

Yes

If not, are you interested in learning how to sharpen your knives? (Yes or no.)

Are you interested in purchasing sharpening products for your knives? (Yes or no.)

No


SPECIAL REQUESTS/COMMENTS
 
Been here off and on mostly lurking for years. Finally In position to get a real good knife for myself.
 
Handle is the least of my worries. If I had to state a preference it would be western but it's really a non issue.
 
Surprised that a single touching-up in a week time is all you presently need. So, it's my understanding that priorities are edge retention and food release. For edge retention I would seriously consider an Aogami Super core with stainless cladding like this one when it comes again available. JCK Natures Deep Impact Series Gyuto (180mm to 240mm, 3 sizes)
When you insist on full stainless you may consider the Ryusen Blazen SG-2/R2, although its sharpening, especially deburring isn't all that simple.
Both are slightly on the beefier side which, with their careful grinding, allows an excellent food release. If you're serious about looking for light and slender be aware it has its consequences for the food release you require.
Without being a laser, this one is very light and still has an acceptable food release, which can be improved by asymmetric sharpening. The steel is 14C28N, say AEB-L on steroids.
https://www.sabatier-k.com/cuisine-25-cm-serie-200-manche-en-g10.html
 
Yoshikane is always a good answer. What was the question?

I’d agree that Yoshikane would be a good answer to the OP’s gyuto question? But what about the boner?

I wouldn’t choose a Yoshi for a boner fwiw, Too much dainty taper behind the tip and a bit fragile; nobody likes a broken boner

There is literally no way to pose these questions with a straight face, so I’m indulging the smut here: @sled_god What are you planning to bone/do with your boner?
 
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Although she never seemed impressed with his 4 1/2" boner, hard to argue with the price...
but seriously, don't buy this...
 
If you can go semi-stainless for your boner, the Kanehide honesuki is great for a chicken-centered workload. The handle is pretty grippy, edge lasts a good while, and it's cheap so you don't get attached.

My Mac Pro has pretty decent food release, would be curious to hear others' experience. Stainless, tough, easy to sharpen and deburr, western handle, under budget. As soon as you sand off the obnoxious logo, you won't get teased in the kitchen. Sand the spine too, corners are sharp. Not sure if it's thin enough for you, but it sure beats German and Victorinox. My results are similar to this review, and without the goofy granton cutouts. But a real pro should weigh in on this.

I'm also a big Yoshi fan, though short slices below the shinogi line can stick more often.
 
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If you can go semi-stainless for your boner, the Kanehide honesuki is great for a chicken-centered workload. The handle is pretty grippy, edge lasts a good while, and it's cheap so you don't get attached.
While I like honesukis for deboning I'm not a huge fan of them for tasks like trimming and butterflying. I think suji-like petties (petties with low bladeheight) work better in that regard.
 
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