I've found 100mm petties but am trying to find if ashi produces a <100mm parer (80? 90?) in the ginga series, preferably in aeb-l with a western handle.
Any leads?
Any leads?
Does ashi make a <100 parer?
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maybe i'm blind but i don't see any < 100 ashi petties there? there are some 100s by ashi and then some <100s by other makers. help lol
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The only Ashi <120 I've ever seen is the 100's at JKI, I think even those are already a special order. Never saw anything smaller.
FWIW, since the wa-version runs short the 100 at JKI is likely to be closer to 90.
FWIW, since the wa-version runs short the 100 at JKI is likely to be closer to 90.
they do run short in wa versions
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Now that we have your attention anyway:
-Was I correct in that the 100 is basically a JKI exclusive?
-Any chance of ever seeing anything slightly shorter (like a yo-80, 85 or 90)?
-And while we're on the topic of gingas... a slightly taller 210?
i dont know if its an exclusive, as often times the things i special order show up all over the place, but it is something we special order from them. We could order shorter, but it would take a long time and demand for those short knives is really not that high all in all... especially because the price will be the same or higher as a slightly longer one (~100-120mm) due to the extra labor involved. Not opposed to taller things from them, just never ordered that way yet. If there's enough demand, I'm down.
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Ah yeah that makes sense. I admit this problem also plays for me; for some reason it's much easier to justify 200 euros for a big knife than 100 for a small knife, even though the labor and production costs just don't scale down that well.
On the blade height... I don't want to speak for others but I think that mostly plays on the 210. It's sort of on that edge where it's... a bit too low for most people's taste, to the point I've seen it mentioned as a negative quite a few times. On the bigger ones it's not as much of a problem, and I think most of the extra-tall afficionados gravitate towards extra height anyway.
Razorsharp in Singapore got some extra height 210s a while ago and people seemed enthusiastic about it, but I have no idea whether that was also reflected in sales.
I feel you on the 'our stuff shows up all over the place'. I think you're probably most responsible for popularizing the Gingas but they've started to pop up at quite a few retailers in the last couple of years. I have to admit that as a far away European I also had to source them elsewhere (BWJ) because shipping in from US was just too uneconomical.
On the blade height... I don't want to speak for others but I think that mostly plays on the 210. It's sort of on that edge where it's... a bit too low for most people's taste, to the point I've seen it mentioned as a negative quite a few times. On the bigger ones it's not as much of a problem, and I think most of the extra-tall afficionados gravitate towards extra height anyway.
Razorsharp in Singapore got some extra height 210s a while ago and people seemed enthusiastic about it, but I have no idea whether that was also reflected in sales.
I feel you on the 'our stuff shows up all over the place'. I think you're probably most responsible for popularizing the Gingas but they've started to pop up at quite a few retailers in the last couple of years. I have to admit that as a far away European I also had to source them elsewhere (BWJ) because shipping in from US was just too uneconomical.
makes sense... totally get it.... shipping can be EXPENSIVE
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There is a very simple reason for it: short knives used on a board have a short life span. Small contact area, a lot of sharpening. Compare 180, 150 and 120 petties. Go figure for a 90mm. No chance in finding short vintages: within a few years all ground away.
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For me that's mosty true for petties but not for paring knives; those rarely touch the board for me. I amost exclusivey use them in-hand.
I think the 'psychological' problem for me is more basic: my caveman brain thinks that if a knife is half the size it should cost at most half the price. I also use them less in genera, so that's also a factor. Even though that none of that necessariy makes any sense from a knife-making economy perspective.
I woudn't be surprised if there was a similar subconscious thing going on that makes people willing to spend far more on heavier workhorse knives than on thin light lasers.
I think the 'psychological' problem for me is more basic: my caveman brain thinks that if a knife is half the size it should cost at most half the price. I also use them less in genera, so that's also a factor. Even though that none of that necessariy makes any sense from a knife-making economy perspective.
I woudn't be surprised if there was a similar subconscious thing going on that makes people willing to spend far more on heavier workhorse knives than on thin light lasers.
