Yo Prune Juice,
The lad could be my son.
The lad could be my son.
No, that sounds like the right crowd.
(Wait, they don't mean ME, right? Just old Americans (not including @M1k3)? OK, sweet.)
Yo Prune Juice,
The lad could be my son.
There’s no other country where people openly say that you should let old people die to save the economy.
Yo Prune Juice,
The lad could be my son.
They were pretty clear about it, true.Uuuuuhhh.... Sweden?
Uuuuuhhh.... Sweden?
They called it "herd immunity". Haiya.
They were pretty clear about it, true.
This is maths outside-the-box thinking!If everyone is dead already, there is no pandemic!
This is maths outside-the-box thinking!
I'm a Brit who moved to Australia just over a year ago
Decent timing, mate!
Exactly this.So I guess we'd better not count our chooks until they hatch.
Having said that, as the Melbourne outbreak and now the current Sydney outbreak have demonstrated, it's very easy and definitely still possible for things to get out of hand very quickly.
Then it takes a huge effort to get the virus under control again, assumimg that you even can.
The cricket decision also baffles me. I do hope that it's not the innaugural Superspreading Test Match.Will we get the virus under control again? Yes - I highly expect we will.
The problem is that New-South-Welshmen had to watch our leaders explain rules that seemed to change every other day, with exceptions that were confusing or made little sense. Why is the Northern Beaches effectively locked down while the SCG gets to play cricket?? All the while the leadership have dragged their feet on "free" measures like mask wearing.
No... we will get this under control but if we have a second wave or a long period of restrictions it is because they chose not to act early. The cost is more sick people. Potentially more deaths. And ironically for them, worse economic outcomes due to longer restrictions.
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Just a reminder to please keep the politics out of this thread as much as possible please. By all means talk about events and policies (and their effects) but avoid calling names and attributing blame to a particular political side, even if you are certain that it's justified. I'm certain someone else will be certain that it isn't justified and I'm pretty sure that you are not going to convince them here.
There is apparently a virtual space called Twitter where you can fight those wars. Have at it over there.
We have done an OK job keeping this thread sensible up until now, given the contensiousness of the topic. Lets not go astray now.
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The cricket decision also baffles me. I do hope that it's not the innaugural Superspreading Test Match.
I also find the reluctance to mandate masks in NSW difficult to understand. I suspect that there is a decent chance that they would have limited the latest bottleshop cluster where 2000 odd people were exposed.
The NSW Govt seems supremely confident in NSW Health's ability to track and isolate to close the cluster down. I hope that they are correct, although I worry that they they are playing with fire. As you say, the economic, social and health consequences if they misjudge would make Adelaide's 3 day lockdown look like a walk in the park.
I also find it surprising that anyone from Sydney can come out to regional NSW. No "Ring of Air (ahem Steel)" like they had in Melbourne.
I'm hearing you. Still very few people wearing masks in my neck of the woods. Unless I cross over to Victoria. Then almost everyone is.I was in Sydney mid November and there was certainly more evidence there that we were in the midst of a global pandemic. I'd barely seen anyone in Adelaide wearing a mask but lots in Sydney, and the checking in system was being taken far more seriously in bars/shops/restaurants. SA has since then brought the latter in, but barely anywhere enforces it / makes sure people have done so.
So fingers crossed for NSW. I fear that if we had a similar outbreak in SA that people here would have become so used to not really having any cases here, that there'd be a degree of complacency that people in NSW and VIC are less likely to have.
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