My first spatchcock chicken sucked - requesting suggestions

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I was really excited to try this as my wife and I love roasted chicken. The whole concept of flattening out the bird, cooking it faster with better overall browning, and having the white meat done while not under cooking the thighs seemed like just the ticket.

I prepared the bird easily with an old Ho Ching Kee Lee cleaver I recently got off the bay. Easily done and the perfect tool for it. I put the bird in a shallow SS lasagna pan on a SS roasting grate that brought it 1.5 inches off the bottom. Inserted a Chef Alarm probe in the thickest part of the white meat. The bird weighed just over 7 lbs. (yeah, very large whole chickens in this neck of the woods). Due to the size, I decided to roast at 400F instead of the usual 425 - 450 I see in the numerous recipes I checked out.

The white meat registered 151F after 1 hour and 20 minutes. I pulled it and set it on my work table on a cooling rack. After 15 minutes, the temperature had gone up to 159F.

So how was it? Well, perhaps my thread title is a bit of hyperbole, but relative to how my birds usually come out, that how it seemed to me.

The skin on the tops of the breast meat were very over-browned (to me), while a lot on the rest were actually not quite browned enough, especially on the sides. The white meat was not any juicier or tender compared to my whole roasted chicken. In fact, maybe just a touch dryer. The legs were just a tad over done, noticeable mostly on the drumsticks. Very disappointing. Yet when I took the rest of the chicken apart after dinner to prepare my stock and store the meat, I found that the joints on the drumstick/thigh did not separate nearly as easily as they should have. This was even more so when separating the wings from the breast.

So, not really an epic fail, but a distinct disappointment.

For reference: My method for oven roasting a chicken is to place it breast side down in a large roasting pan with the typical V rack that can hold a small to medium turkey. I will roast this between 1.5 and 2.0 hours at 275F, then flip it over until the white meat hits 160. This works pretty darn well for juicy white meat and tender dark meat. The downside is the lack of any good crispy skin on the top of the bird. In all this recent research on the spatchcock method, I discovered that white meat should reach 150F and dark meat 170F. I felt silly knowing I was still unknowingly clinging to Betty Crocker style cooking. Yikes. Anyway, I see why my method works pretty well. If I use my own method again, I would increase the time with the breast side down and pull the bird when the temp reads 150 on the white meat.

Obviously the spatchcock method is viable, so I need to find out what I did wrong.

Oh, right....electric oven with the typical bottom heating element, and the bird sat right about in the center.

Hoping that some of you that use this method have some thoughts and suggestions.
 
Spatchcocking is mostly a quick and lazy method (with decent scissors it takes like 30 seconds to take out the spine but personally I prefer properly deboning it.


Basically you debone it the same way you would for a galantine / stuffed chicken but you just leave it as a flat slab. Dry brine overnight (dries out the skin too). And just throw it in a big frying pan in your fat of choice. Leave on medium heat for 20-25 mins, turn over for another 5 mins on the other side on high heat and boom... a perfect slab of proper boneless chicken with crispy skin.
 
Any meat is going to continue to cook and raise the temp 5-15 degrees when you pull it, especially when you are cooking at higher temperatures.
I spatchcock fairly often but only when barbecuing, I haven't tried it in the oven so I dont have many thought there. Is your oven convection? That could help otherwise honestly its not easy to get perfectly cooked whole chicken and crispy skin.
 
Spatchcocking is mostly a quick and lazy method (with decent scissors it takes like 30 seconds to take out the spine but personally I prefer properly deboning it.


Basically you debone it the same way you would for a galantine / stuffed chicken but you just leave it as a flat slab. Dry brine overnight (dries out the skin too). And just throw it in a big frying pan in your fat of choice. Leave on medium heat for 20-25 mins, turn over for another 5 mins on the other side on high heat and boom... a perfect slab of proper boneless chicken with crispy skin.

Well, I know what I'm making for dinner on Sunday! I always fully debone my chickens, but haven't kept it all together before. Only question is what to stuff it with...
 
Concur with Matt, I usually do spatchcocks on the grill (charcoal indirect) and I've been really enjoying it for smoke-roasting Thanksgiving turkeys to cut down cooking time. I haven't noticed a big quality difference for chicken compared to doing them whole though.

I know it's not a perfect apples to apples but indirect charcoal is basically turning the grill into an oven. My setup usually runs about 425°, I pull the meat at about 145° internal and let rest ~30 minutes. The breasts generally rise to 152-155 and thighs around 170 something.

Dry brining in the fridge overnight will help a bunch with getting that crispy skin.
 
Spatchcocking is mostly a quick and lazy method (with decent scissors it takes like 30 seconds to take out the spine but personally I prefer properly deboning it.
Basically you debone it the same way you would for a galantine / stuffed chicken but you just leave it as a flat slab. Dry brine overnight (dries out the skin too). And just throw it in a big frying pan in your fat of choice. Leave on medium heat for 20-25 mins, turn over for another 5 mins on the other side on high heat and boom... a perfect slab of proper boneless chicken with crispy skin.
Thanks for the link. Something new to try.
Any meat is going to continue to cook and raise the temp 5-15 degrees when you pull it, especially when you are cooking at higher temperatures.
I spatchcock fairly often but only when barbecuing, I haven't tried it in the oven so I dont have many thought there. Is your oven convection? That could help otherwise honestly its not easy to get perfectly cooked whole chicken and crispy skin.

Concur with Matt, I usually do spatchcocks on the grill (charcoal indirect) and I've been really enjoying it for smoke-roasting Thanksgiving turkeys to cut down cooking time. I haven't noticed a big quality difference for chicken compared to doing them whole though.

I know it's not a perfect apples to apples but indirect charcoal is basically turning the grill into an oven. My setup usually runs about 425°, I pull the meat at about 145° internal and let rest ~30 minutes. The breasts generally rise to 152-155 and thighs around 170 something.

Dry brining in the fridge overnight will help a bunch with getting that crispy skin.
Good thoughts here. I see how the grill would work so much better. Radiant heat all around. No convection in my crappy, cheap oven.

So what I think is happening here is that the heat is just not getting to the bird evenly with the SS lasagna pan all around the bottom and the chicken up on a little rack. My next attempt will be to use a big cast iron frying pan.

Edit to add: Oh, definitely going to try dry brining. Sounds good!
 
I spatchcock for both grill and electric oven. I debone too when I want to for some specific reason but not necessary for just general roasting. Spatchcocking i smore about speed than anything else really.

Dry brining is key to flavor and moisture retention but that is going to be true no matter what shape the bird is in from whole to boned out. Dry brining chicken is a game changer.

For even browning you probably need to turn it once during cooking and may even need to cover the breasts with foil for the first bit.

What confuses me is that you pull the bird when the breast was 151 but felt the legs were over done. Considering that breast temp (which I like) and that the leg joints didn't pull apart easily, I'm wondering if your legs weren't actually under done and maybe a little tough? It's really hard to over cook legs. You can run them up into the 190's with no adverse affect.

In my opinion, the absolute best way to roast a bird, especially larger birds, is to break it down into primals. In this case you could do the two whole legs and both breasts with wings attached or separate them. You can leave the bones in the breasts if you want. I usually don't but up to you.

Anyway, start by dry brining the day before. Then put your legs in the oven first. Give them a head start. Bird, temp and time will determine this but at least like 10-15min's and then put in your breasts and wings. Now your legs that can, and should, go higher temp are off and you can pull pieces as they get done. So if your breasts are cooking faster than you expected, you can just pull them.
 
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I haven't spatchcocked enough chickens to make a blanket statement, but I didn't notice a huge difference between that and whole chicken. I prefer roasting them whole because I can skip a step. For crispy skin, I like to run my hand underneath the skin and sort of separate it from the meat, then let it sit in the fridge for a day to dry out, dry brine optional. The downside is the skin can separate from the meat after carving. But for skin that crunches like a delicate potato chip, it's worth it imo.

Most of the time if I'm doing an entire chicken I do it in the grill and the best one I've made in recent memory was a medium size (don't remember exact weight), not spatchcocked, roasted around 375F until the breast meat hit ~155F, no flipping. Nice even golden color, crispy, thin, bite through skin and juicy, well cooked meat all around. On the flip side, I followed that exact recipe for a much larger chicken and it came out kinda meh, so size/quality of the bird had a big impact.
 
Don’t bother to spatchcock the chicken. This recipe from Thomas Keller is excellent. Pull the chicken when it hits 155 in the thigh.

Just do this:
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