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More_Gyutos

and petties, and sujis and…
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KNIFE TYPE
What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)?
Chef’s knife

Are you right or left handed?
Right

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?
I think he has only used western, so that’s probably best.

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?
210mm

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)
Yes.

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?
$250

KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?
Home

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)
Not cutting though bones, but everything else.

What knife, if any, are you replacing?
He has used Henckels in the past. Now he has some hand me down knives from someone’s vacation home.

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for the common types of grips.)
I belie he is more of a hammer style grip but not sure.

What cutting motions do you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for types of cutting motions and identify the two or three most common cutting motions, in order of most used to least used.)
Slice or pull. I haven’t seen him rock but can’t rule it out.

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)

The knives he has now are just really terrible. It would be great if he had something solid, not easy to chip, keeps its edge and I can sharpen it for him once in a while. Comfort, edge retention are the most important. Aesthetics are not.


Edge Retention
Sharpen maybe yearly or so. He doesn’t cook a ton.

KNIFE MAINTENANCE
Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board?
Uh, I might need to upgrade this situation too.

Do you sharpen your own knives? (Yes or no.)

If not, are you interested in learning how to sharpen your knives?

Are you interested in purchasing sharpening products for your knives? (Yes or no.)


SPECIAL REQUESTS/COMMENTS
 
That's a good deal for a Takamura R2
210mm gyuto. Be sure brother knows some knife care. It will cut better than his Henckels, but can't use it as a beater knife. In modern world many haven't a clue about knife care.
 
I like this thread’s suggestions more than this GearPatrol list which I encountered this morning. It did have one good idea though: why not a pair of knives? One beater, one in reserve. Because @More_Gyutos.

A pair of strategies:

Identical twins: Two Gesshin stainless, $120 each.

Fraternal twins:
  • “Beater” Reigetsu Gyuto ($35 for 180mm or $46 for 210mm)
  • “Boss” Harukaze AS ($130 for 215mm) or similar Hatsukokoro Ginsan ($150 for 210mm) or Tsunehisa AS ($169)
Two knives will make it easier for him to sense dulling over time and appreciate you bringing your stones.
 
I like this thread’s suggestions more than this GearPatrol list which I encountered this morning.
@Jovidah You’re famous!

  • “Beater” Reigetsu Gyuto ($35 for 180mm or $46 for 210mm)
  • “Boss” Harukaze AS ($130 for 215mm) or similar Hatsukokoro Ginsan ($150 for 210mm) or Tsunehisa AS ($169)
Two knives will make it easier for him to sense dulling over time and appreciate you bringing your stones.
A very sensible approach!
 
Huh? What did I do?
On kitchenknifeforums.com, a user asked whether they should get a Takamura or a Miyabi and one response noted, "It's a bit like asking 'which car to buy, Ferrari or SUV'."
Is there any good reason you're only looking at a Takamura vs Miyabi comparison? It's a bit like asking 'which car to buy, Ferrari or SUV'.
They did take your quote out of context. I don’t read what you wrote as saying that Takamuras are the Ferraris of kitchen knives, but rather that limiting a comparison of kitchen knives to Takamura vs Miyabi is as flawed as asking whether you should buy a high end sports car or a family vehicle when getting a car recommendation.
 
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They did take your quote out of context. I don’t read what you wrote as saying that Takamuras are the Ferraris of kitchen knives, but rather that limiting a comparison of kitchen knives to Takamura vs Miyabi is as flawed as asking whether you should buy a high end sports car or a family vehicle when getting a car recommendation.
Yeah that's how I meant it... it's like comparing apples to oranges. Though admittedly if Takamura was a car the Ferrari would probably be a good comparison for all aspects except pricing...
Also felt really weird to limit to just those two... mengwong's reference is appropriate.
 
+1 to molybdenum steel knives like Masamoto, Misono, MAC pro etc.
They get sharp easily (also by a hone if needed) and can take a beating.
I like this suggestion the most as this really is what first jknifes should be all about. Soft stainless that’s durable and easy to sharpen and quite a step up from Henkel or whatever. Sometimes these threads get lumped in with best value at $150ish and I think these are 2 different topics worth separate discussion
 
Im cheap and all about bang for the buck..... Kikuichi has an outlet section where they sell blems /seconds. I have both a Gyuto and a santoku in SK4 carbon, and they are absolute workhorses. Best $75 dollar knife i have ever bought... so i have two!!! The only thing to be aware, is Kikuichi does not sharp their knives to perfection. They expect the chef ( they are intende3d for pro kitchens) to hone the knife to their liking. He would not be remiss with one though, if you can sharp it.

https://kikuichi.net/products/gm-molybdenum-stainless-steel-gyuto-outlet
 
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