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feels hard on the stones
That was unexpectorated.Couldn't hock it?
I’ve tried using a drop of “personal lubricant” on stones before but it never became a habit. I like being able to easily flush the swarf.
That was unexpectorated.Couldn't hock it?
5.99/moI’ve tried using a drop of “personal lubricant”
Not a problem but convenience. The way the Silver Gel coated the stone without a mess was very nice. Once I started to hone the blade it liquified on the stone surface almost creating a slurry, and would have had I used it on one of my King soaking style whetstones. I looked up the conservation water thickeners and they are designed to also be used with acrylic paint. The Gel used with the silver gel is food grade. I suppose I should have posted a photo of what is looked like in the 12K Shapton. I had plenty of feedback on the 12K stone, and unlike adding straight water to the stone the stone stayed coated and you could see and feel the blade being honed. It was almost like using oil, and It cleaned up nicely afterwards.What problem are you trying to solve?
Couldn’t even swallow it.Couldn't hock it?
A for effortCouldn’t even swallow it.
Less messy and easier to clean up I'd think.
I also agree that I think it's an interesting idea. In fact, in addition to using caustic soda to manage reactivity on some stones, I often use small amounts of glycerin with very hard stones to manage feedback. Glycerin certainly adjusts the texture of the water somewhat, even at lower concentrations. This deserves further experimentation
What does “really well” mean in this contexts? What is better compared to regular water?I’ve tried this and can confirm is works really well. I also use this with knives, just a few drops put onto a wet stone adds a bit of lubrication. This works well on the finer grits and knife finishing stones.
What does “really well” mean in this contexts? What is better compared to regular water?
For razors on really fine hard stones, water sometimes isn't a viscous enough lubricant. The razor will skate across the stone and catch on any kind of little inconsistency in the surface. Standard pharmacy grade mineral oil is too viscous. The slurry can get gummy and keep you from achieving a super fine finish. Over the years people have used shaving foam, dish soap, sewing machine oil, spit, glycerin, kerosene, transmission fluid, propylene glycol, and many other things to change the sharpening properties of their honing tools. Getting a really nice smooth fine non aggressive polish on the apex requires something in between water and thick oil to get the right glide across the stone and through the slurry. Way overkill for me for chef knives where I'm going to bang them against cutting boards for thousands of hours between sharpenings. But getting that perfect edge matters a lot when the knife is going to be used to shave my throat.
You probably know Jayson but FWIW, true honing oil is highly refined and much, much thinner than pharmaceutical grade.
Is there one that is odor-free?You probably know Jayson but FWIW, true honing oil is highly refined and much, much thinner than pharmaceutical grade.
Is there one that is odor-free?
I pay close attention to this too. I can't stand a lot of those smells that don't seem to bother other people. They give me a headache. Dan's, Ballistol, WD-40, and I think Smiths are a problem. Neatsfoot oil doesn't give me a headache, but is way too stinky to consider.Is there one that is odor-free?
What does “really well” mean in this contexts? What is better compared to regular water?
I like that there are people out there doing different things. Oil and my Arks seem like a match made in heaven, but if I ever get the itch to try something else, I like the idea that it's out there.I also like to use the Smiths with water on my Arks when working knives. Arks benefit from lubrication and I will use either soapy water or water and Smiths. I’m sure oil would also work to add lubrication but I prefer soapy water or Smiths for east clean up.
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I like that there are people out there doing different things. Oil and my Arks seem like a match made in heaven, but if I ever get the itch to try something else, I like the idea that it's out there.
I kind of enjoy the cleanup, because it's unusual and vaguely Roman. Wipe stone (I use some sort of thick coconut-based cloth I like, I could come up with a link if pressed), add more oil, wipe again, done.
Olive oil goes off after a couple of years. It turns to varnish like other unsaturated fats. I’d stick with non-vegetable oils. Whale oil would probably work, but ~shrug~.Olive oil works well to. Stole that one from @cotedupy. Probably way more expensive than other options. But you only need a tiny bit. And olive oil is packed with anti-oxidants, so unlikely to make the stone go "rancid". Especially a finishing stone. And it's convenient. I always have a squirt bottle of olive oil at hand in the kitchen.
Olive oil goes off after a couple of years. It turns to varnish like other unsaturated fats. I’d stick with non-vegetable oils. Whale oil would probably work, but ~shrug~.
In US, “low-odor mineral spirits”
would be my preferred fluid.
You probably know Jayson but FWIW, true honing oil is highly refined and much, much thinner than pharmaceutical grade.
Olive oil goes off after a couple of years. It turns to varnish like other unsaturated fats. I’d stick with non-vegetable oils. Whale oil would probably work, but ~shrug~.
Better change your profile photo:Anyways I'm off to buy another can of dip.
can I rub it on my ballz.Here is the stuff I use with my razor finishers. Pharmaceutical/food grade propylene glycol.
Completely safe for skin, eyes, inhalation. Non odorous. You can literally eat it and rub it on your skin FDA approved.
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Works great with hard or soft stones. Natural or synthetic. I get the stone wet with water and then add several drops of propylene glycol. I suppose it would work for coarse and medium stones too but in most other cases I will prefer either straight water or straight mineral oil.
*laughs in hydraulic fluid.Obligatory H&S post...using oil or lubricants chock full of hydrocarbons like WD-40, motor oil, or transmission fluid without gloves is a bad idea. It will be absorbed through your skin in short order. It is carcinogenic.
Anyways I'm off to buy another can of dip.
can I rub it on my ballz
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