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A petty for your thoughts ? 150mm mini-gyuto style ?
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... so , for "standard" height (28-30)150mm stainless petty's , what are some current forum favorites .
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I've found 33mm high to work as a board knife (with 27mm being too low).
For fruits I have moved up in length to 170-ish length because the 150s felt a little too small for pears & apples. There aren't a lot of makers in the 180 gyuto space so the 165 santoku/bunkas as mentioned above will be easier to find a match (or in stock)
MAC Pro 6" blade height 27.432mm
I hunted for something like you do for a while.
Two problems (to me) presented themselves pretty thoroughly:
-the taller ones are very often thicker knives;
-the taller ones are quite often iron clads
and that's not even counting if you like the profile or not and whatelse.
If thick doesn't bother you, you could look at Akifusa A#2 160mm petty (164x36) that has got two things going on for it: slanted upwards and a real spacious rounded neck that also serves to clear the handle from the grip and give more space to your fingers.
https://www.aiandomknives.com/produ...0mm-ebony-handle?_pos=13&_sid=0b453854f&_ss=r
Alternatively you could like something like Hinoura or Wakui do. Hinoura does a 180mm petty that's like 180/38. Alternatively his 135mm petty as was available on Ai & Om not so long ago is 143/38.
https://www.aiandomknives.com/produ...1&_sid=a388d8720&_ss=r&variant=39573422833773
If iron clad wouldn't bother you, but I know it does, Munetoshi also does a great rather tall petty - but iron clad W#2 is probably the most obvious deterrent to a petty I could imagine unless working mostly with proteins.
A real good alternative to avoid being so thick or iron cladding is Matsubara. Sharp Knife Shop had a nice A#2 SS clad one for a few weeks. Now sold out.
https://sharpknifeshop.com/products/matsubara-hamono-petty-150-mm
If I hadn't buy the S. Tanaka Ginsan petty, and to hell with the wonky grind we see in the pictures on SKS, this one would have gotten to me in ways I would have bought it.
The S. Tanaka I think though is closest to ideal of the idea of a "petty-Gyuto" that also doubles rather well as a more or less Honesuki profile. I bought Ginsan because it's a pretty tough steel, so it can take some crap, and a fully SS blade soothed me best.
For anything "dedicated" to being small, pointy, and used on board very comfortably, I would rather point you towards something like 160-180mm "narrowish" Bunka.
I loved the Futana S3 I had (174/43) and now love the M. Kurosaki I have (181/43).
Two problems (to me) presented themselves pretty thoroughly:
-the taller ones are very often thicker knives;
-the taller ones are quite often iron clads
and that's not even counting if you like the profile or not and whatelse.
If thick doesn't bother you, you could look at Akifusa A#2 160mm petty (164x36) that has got two things going on for it: slanted upwards and a real spacious rounded neck that also serves to clear the handle from the grip and give more space to your fingers.
https://www.aiandomknives.com/produ...0mm-ebony-handle?_pos=13&_sid=0b453854f&_ss=r
Alternatively you could like something like Hinoura or Wakui do. Hinoura does a 180mm petty that's like 180/38. Alternatively his 135mm petty as was available on Ai & Om not so long ago is 143/38.
https://www.aiandomknives.com/produ...1&_sid=a388d8720&_ss=r&variant=39573422833773
If iron clad wouldn't bother you, but I know it does, Munetoshi also does a great rather tall petty - but iron clad W#2 is probably the most obvious deterrent to a petty I could imagine unless working mostly with proteins.
A real good alternative to avoid being so thick or iron cladding is Matsubara. Sharp Knife Shop had a nice A#2 SS clad one for a few weeks. Now sold out.
https://sharpknifeshop.com/products/matsubara-hamono-petty-150-mm
If I hadn't buy the S. Tanaka Ginsan petty, and to hell with the wonky grind we see in the pictures on SKS, this one would have gotten to me in ways I would have bought it.
The S. Tanaka I think though is closest to ideal of the idea of a "petty-Gyuto" that also doubles rather well as a more or less Honesuki profile. I bought Ginsan because it's a pretty tough steel, so it can take some crap, and a fully SS blade soothed me best.
For anything "dedicated" to being small, pointy, and used on board very comfortably, I would rather point you towards something like 160-180mm "narrowish" Bunka.
I loved the Futana S3 I had (174/43) and now love the M. Kurosaki I have (181/43).
parbaked
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TFTFTFTFTFTFTF…Nashiji is a nice, cheap, tall petty…
https://www.teruyasu.net/products/petit.html
https://www.teruyasu.net/products/petit.html
I've seen some not so nice. Also cheap until you realize that there are also 35$ CAD petty coming with that kind of handle as the 8800 JPY one for 135mm.
I would know...
33$ CAD minus 15% - "get to free shipping" purchase - Kikumori SS. Not saying it's a comparable steel, rather my point is that handle is plywood and programmed for self destruction even if you sand it and oil and wax it. And is really nothing comfy or to behold.
Had one of these Mabs 150mm with me... sent back to vendor.
Triple faceted grind, thick, the poorest handle ever of all TFs imagineable, overgrinds showing from factory, heel sharpened so absurdly uncarefully on one side that it gives a warning torsion "tick" if you gently push it with a finger nail side to the blade.
Sorry but if one is going to deal with TFs... aaaaah... inconsistencies, then one ought to go for the real stuff not the cheap stuff... Cheap stuff from a maker like TF is expensive stuff likely coming to you in a worse state than the cheapest J-factory knives - at best.
Thanks .
Even though that TF Petty Nashiji is carbon , I'm tempted , but would order with the optional handle @ 3080 yen .
I don't worry so much about the carbon core mind you. Of course won't be a champion of acidic foods, but otherwise TF does W#1 very nicely IME. SS clad does a good job of minimizing how White can be a PITA at times, even W#2. Edge still not so impervious though obviously.
Won't try to discourage you in any more way. If you feel for it buy it is my best advice at this point or any point.
Won't try to discourage you in any more way. If you feel for it buy it is my best advice at this point or any point.
tostadas
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TF tend to be nice and tall for their shorter models. You can also get the FRZK which is jck house version made by TF similar to the nashiji model for dirt cheap.
Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan White Steel No.1 Series Petty (135mm and 150mm, 2 Sizes)
Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan White Steel No.1 Series Petty (135mm and 150mm, 2 Sizes)
nexus1935
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I came in to recommend the Masashi 150 gyuto too - great little knife! Thin behind the edge and stainless SLD.
Other than that, the Fujiwara FKM line has an inexpensive 150 gyuto:
https://japanesechefsknife.com/coll...efusa-fkm-series-gyuto-japanesechefsknife-com
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Add the small contact area with the board and it becomes obvious why they require frequent sharpening and have a short life span.
riba
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I actually have the Shigeki Tanaka petty.
The knives my wife uses:
My thoughts:
Cheap (painted?) handle (doesn't bother me). Thin and good grind. excellent VG10. for me little knuckle clearance. My wife uses it a *lot*, also on the board. She does NOT baby it I bought it as "budget" knife with good steel and grind. Bought it for 60 USD 9 years ago.
The knives my wife uses:
My thoughts:
Cheap (painted?) handle (doesn't bother me). Thin and good grind. excellent VG10. for me little knuckle clearance. My wife uses it a *lot*, also on the board. She does NOT baby it
I bought it as "budget" knife with good steel and grind. Bought it for 60 USD 9 years ago.
I actually have the Shigeki Tanaka petty.
The knives my wife uses:
My thoughts:
Cheap (painted?) handle (doesn't bother me). Thin and good grind. excellent VG10. for me little knuckle clearance. My wife uses it a *lot*, also on the board. She does NOT baby it
It's available with a Wa handle :
Japanese petty knife SHIGEKI TANAKA Vg-10 damascus - Size:12/15cm
riba
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I think it was good as budget knife, but the pricing has changed quite a bit...
Your version currently sells for $72 on one Japan website but shipping is approx. $25 to USA
tim huang
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any specific preference on the blade itself? like steel or anything?Looking for suggestions for a tall 150mm stainless petty for cooking at home for myself .
Considering this Shigeki Tanaka being sold and branded by Honmamon-Japan . (also available branded Tanaka from K&S NYC)
Height is listed as 34mm .
(photo is 155mm version )
SHIGEHIRO SPECIAL VG10 Damascus Petty (Pairing) Knife 150mm Made in Japan | eBay
Tanaka VG10 Damascus Petty 150 mm with Western Handle
tim huang
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thin blade Takemura R2 $162 from knifewearLooking for suggestions for a tall 150mm stainless petty for cooking at home for myself .
Considering this Shigeki Tanaka being sold and branded by Honmamon-Japan . (also available branded Tanaka from K&S NYC)
Height is listed as 34mm .
(photo is 155mm version )
SHIGEHIRO SPECIAL VG10 Damascus Petty (Pairing) Knife 150mm Made in Japan | eBay
Tanaka VG10 Damascus Petty 150 mm with Western Handle
big tall petty....well Gihei A#2 petty $140 from CKTG
I decided for this one I definitely want stainless ; AUS-8 , AUS-10 , VG-10 , etc.
Was getting tempted by some of the carbons being posted , but for this petty , stainless .
Ease of use / maintenance .
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I don't find sharpening R2/SG2 such a fun. Achieving a good deburring isn't that easy.
DitmasPork
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What’s fascinating is how a cook’s habits, techniques, play into things. For instance, my petty doesn’t hit the board much—except for the tip—compared to using a gyuto; I might use a petty to mince a single clove of garlic and a little ginger. 90% of knife work is from my gyuto, and I’m much more careful with it. I’ll de-bone chicken; open a cardboard box with a petty without fear.
DitmasPork
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Unless you know what you want, know you like carbon, I’d strongly advise against getting tempted by carbon!!!!
I travel to Hawaii often with knife roll in tow—going again next month. Hawaii’s humidity, salty air, can by brutal on carbons. Yeah, I take carbons, but spend time removing rust that appears often—on one stormy day my Shig got rusty from less than an hour in the kitchen counter.
With stainless, there’s much to choose from, pros/cons with each. I’d not fret too much over what type of stainless in your price range—vg10, moly, AUS, ginsan. I’m a fan of ginsan.
Have fun going at it on your stone!
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My wife uses the blue-handled yo version of this one in VG10. It’s very tough and takes a lot abuse. Not a laser like my Y Kato petty in AS, but definitely much more suited for the abuse heaped upon it.
JCK Natures Inazuma Series IN-1 Wa Petty 150mm (5.9 inch)
Another one in VG10
JCK Original Kagayaki VG-10 Series KV-WP Petty 150mm (5.9 inch)
As others have said, unless you have specific requirements like extra-tall for knuckle clearance on a board, I wouldn’t overthink it too much. If you do plan on using it a lot and taking care of it, e.g. not cutting on plates, then a thinner one like the Takamura / Kato / Tanaka will be more fun to use. Otherwise the JCK-branded one is tougher; you can find the same thing under various like Tsunehisa and other house brands.
JCK Natures Inazuma Series IN-1 Wa Petty 150mm (5.9 inch)
Another one in VG10
JCK Original Kagayaki VG-10 Series KV-WP Petty 150mm (5.9 inch)
As others have said, unless you have specific requirements like extra-tall for knuckle clearance on a board, I wouldn’t overthink it too much. If you do plan on using it a lot and taking care of it, e.g. not cutting on plates, then a thinner one like the Takamura / Kato / Tanaka will be more fun to use. Otherwise the JCK-branded one is tougher; you can find the same thing under various like Tsunehisa and other house brands.
Carbon Knife Co. has one in stock, 150x42 actual size. This sounds perfect but is carbon…
DitmasPork
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I'd agree with the knuckle clearance aspect—my petty doesn't hit the board much at all.
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I'm really kicking myself for not buying one of those red-handled Tanaka petties a few years ago when you could still get them for like 50 dollars... Shouldn't have passed on that. Never expected those to almost triple in price.
Shouldn't have passed on that. Never expected those to almost triple in price.
Which petty ?
Thanks for all the replies !
In addition to deciding on stainless , I decided to go for a standard petty .
But still have to decide on which one .
(referring to my MTH-80) OnionSlicer said , "hold it in a pinch grip and it'll basically be a tall petty."
So , a classic 2 knife pairing ; 210mm gyuto and 150mm petty .
In addition to deciding on stainless , I decided to go for a standard petty .
But still have to decide on which one .
(referring to my MTH-80) OnionSlicer said , "hold it in a pinch grip and it'll basically be a tall petty."
So , a classic 2 knife pairing ; 210mm gyuto and 150mm petty .
As you know, sharpening is a mountain I still have to climb. Luckily, the Takamura came razor-sharp out of the box. I’ll probably have a different opinion in a month.
