Okay reporting back after day 2 of 1K detention.
(or maybe more correctly for those getting notifications for this thread: why is he still bothering)![Big Grin :D :D](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
So, most of this is inspired by @Benuser. Here's what I tried with the same petulant VG10 petty:
Coloured in the edge with red sharpie and then raised a burr with the 1K as per normal and took a look through the microscope to ensure that all the sharpie along the edge was gone (i.e. raised a burr and hit the edge).
No red sharpie in the picture is because I started my initial sharpening at a lower angle (clearly) and had to adjust to an angle to get it to hit the edge, which in the process removed nearly all of the sharpie, and was a bit of unscheduled thinning.
One thing that I've noticed with this pic is the burr is quite ragged with noticeably differing lengths in very short edge length distances.
Now this either meant that I didn't deburr properly yesterday and the extra length is from yesterday's burr despite getting a full workout in the kitchen today, or possibly more likely, is that the burr that I raised tonight was possibly a bit long and started flaking off while I was still raising a burr (accounting for the bits of longer foil and the bits of shorter foil perpendicular to the edge.
Any thoughts?
Next I repainted the sharpie along the edge only, and started deburring very feather lightly on the 1K with edge leading strokes (after the massive success of yesterday's detention).
Now this actually looks pretty clean, and you can notice in the right hand edge of the picture you can see the brownish / reddish sharpie still present as I was progressively stropping at gently increasing angles to try and hit the apex.
So at this point I did the same notepad paper test, and it was cutting as cleanly and easily as yesterday.
I did the paper towel cut test and it was tearing just like it was yesterday too.
So then I tried repainting with the sharpie and did a very gentle couple of edge leading strokes on the 6K for refinement:
Here you can see that the scratch pattern is a bit finer, and if I'm honest, I don't really get it, but the edge looks a little more jagged than it did in the 1K photo, but I wasn't really sampling the exact same spot on the knife so it might have always been like that, and my skills with the microscope and balancing my phone on top while I'm trying to focus both the phone and the microscope aren't really that crash hot, so there might be something lost in that as well.
So I repeated the notepad paper cut and it still cut as cleanly as before (so I'm guessing that I didn't round the edge too much with the refinement).
I did a paper towel cut test, and it was still tearing just like it was previously, but maybe 1 in every 20 cuts of the paper towel were fairly clean, not like fruit ninja clean, but it is a minor improvement on yesterday.
So next to try is a different steel (obviously).
I'll also need to try a different sharpie and different paper towel as I find the bullet point really annoying for painting a flat surface, and I just need to know if this cross weave stuff is doing me in (although I fully accept I won't like the result when it tears normal paper towel
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Any other thoughts or suggestions??
(or maybe more correctly for those getting notifications for this thread: why is he still bothering)
So, most of this is inspired by @Benuser. Here's what I tried with the same petulant VG10 petty:
Coloured in the edge with red sharpie and then raised a burr with the 1K as per normal and took a look through the microscope to ensure that all the sharpie along the edge was gone (i.e. raised a burr and hit the edge).
![day2afterraisingburr.jpg day2afterraisingburr.jpg](https://cdn.imagearchive.com/kitchenknifeforums/data/attach/217/217782-day2afterraisingburr.jpg)
No red sharpie in the picture is because I started my initial sharpening at a lower angle (clearly) and had to adjust to an angle to get it to hit the edge, which in the process removed nearly all of the sharpie, and was a bit of unscheduled thinning.
One thing that I've noticed with this pic is the burr is quite ragged with noticeably differing lengths in very short edge length distances.
Now this either meant that I didn't deburr properly yesterday and the extra length is from yesterday's burr despite getting a full workout in the kitchen today, or possibly more likely, is that the burr that I raised tonight was possibly a bit long and started flaking off while I was still raising a burr (accounting for the bits of longer foil and the bits of shorter foil perpendicular to the edge.
Any thoughts?
Next I repainted the sharpie along the edge only, and started deburring very feather lightly on the 1K with edge leading strokes (after the massive success of yesterday's detention).
![day2after1kdeburring.jpg day2after1kdeburring.jpg](https://cdn.imagearchive.com/kitchenknifeforums/data/attach/217/217783-day2after1kdeburring.jpg)
Now this actually looks pretty clean, and you can notice in the right hand edge of the picture you can see the brownish / reddish sharpie still present as I was progressively stropping at gently increasing angles to try and hit the apex.
So at this point I did the same notepad paper test, and it was cutting as cleanly and easily as yesterday.
I did the paper towel cut test and it was tearing just like it was yesterday too.
So then I tried repainting with the sharpie and did a very gentle couple of edge leading strokes on the 6K for refinement:
![day2after6krefinement.jpg day2after6krefinement.jpg](https://cdn.imagearchive.com/kitchenknifeforums/data/attach/217/217784-day2after6krefinement.jpg)
Here you can see that the scratch pattern is a bit finer, and if I'm honest, I don't really get it, but the edge looks a little more jagged than it did in the 1K photo, but I wasn't really sampling the exact same spot on the knife so it might have always been like that, and my skills with the microscope and balancing my phone on top while I'm trying to focus both the phone and the microscope aren't really that crash hot, so there might be something lost in that as well.
So I repeated the notepad paper cut and it still cut as cleanly as before (so I'm guessing that I didn't round the edge too much with the refinement).
I did a paper towel cut test, and it was still tearing just like it was previously, but maybe 1 in every 20 cuts of the paper towel were fairly clean, not like fruit ninja clean, but it is a minor improvement on yesterday.
So next to try is a different steel (obviously).
I'll also need to try a different sharpie and different paper towel as I find the bullet point really annoying for painting a flat surface, and I just need to know if this cross weave stuff is doing me in (although I fully accept I won't like the result when it tears normal paper towel
![Grimacing face :grimacing: 😬](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f62c.png)
Any other thoughts or suggestions??