TF = fat baby.... But this fat baby can cut like a mofo

[matto]

I picked up some stubby little TF Denkas

• 180 Santoku
• 165 Nakiri
• 125 Petty

These guys are the Danny DeVito of knives. Short and stocky with plenty of extra in the midsection. They're definitely not my first choice for cutting carrots quietly. But for the other tasks I have tried they are pretty damn impressive. What magic powder does he mix into the steel when forging it?

 

[superworrier]

Is the love for TF just people discovering they like heavier knives?

 

[Hz_zzzzzz]

Is the love for TF just people discovering they like heavier knives?

Toyama did that job for me. Couldn’t really go back to lasers since Toyama.

 

[matto]

Is the love for TF just people discovering they like heavier knives?

Not a bad theory, but I don't think that's it?

My guess from my own limited experience is that it's some combination of

1. The edge that came on it is incredibly sharp
2. The convex bevel shape and polish somehow create the right recipe for gliding through certain kinds of food. There's a lot more to cutting feel than a sharp edge.

Yes I know #1 is not that important because it's easy to sharpen a knife. But #2 is harder.

I see a lot of folks thin their TFs right away. Does this actually make the knife better? If so it basically blows my theory #2 above.

 

[Bico Doce]

I think we all can agree it’s certainly not aesthetics

 

[ocanada]

I think it’s the heat treat of the steel creates a unique cutting feel that comes off as extra sharp. I certainly feel that way about my Denka gyuto even though I have other knives that perform as well

 

[superworrier]

Not a bad theory, but I don't think that's it?

My guess from my own limited experience is that it's some combination of

1. The edge that came on it is incredibly sharp
2. The convex bevel shape and polish somehow create the right recipe for gliding through certain kinds of food. There's a lot more to cutting feel than a sharp edge.

Yes I know #1 is not that important because it's easy to sharpen a knife. But #2 is harder.

I see a lot of folks thin their TFs right away. Does this actually make the knife better? If so it basically blows my theory #2 above.

Yeah it might come down to who sharpens the knife. My TF was convex but in all the wrong ways and the tip was terrible. Basically the entire KU portion was incredibly thick, and the left side is very convex too early.

1 is true IME. Somehow the bevel line is wavy but one of the sharpest OOTB edges. I think the first impression makes a big difference

 

[Troopah_Knives]

Maybe I'm thinking of a different line of knives but aren't these super thin BTE. I can hardly see any polished edges in the pictures. I somewhat doubt it has anything to do with the steel itself given how dramatic the effect is.

 

[Barmoley]

Maybe I'm thinking of a different line of knives but aren't these super thin BTE. I can hardly see any polished edges in the pictures. I somewhat doubt it has anything to do with the steel itself given how dramatic the effect is.

Many of them are very thin behind the edge, some almost feel and look slightly concave on the bevel.

 

[Troopah_Knives]

Many of them are very thin behind the edge, some almost feel and look slightly concave on the bevel.

I know exactly the feeling you are talking about. I sharpened a couple of the western handle ones that felt slightly hollow ground. I think those were AS they cut like a beast.

 

[superworrier]

I wonder if they just have a bunch of workers making knives in completely different ways

 

[M1k3]

I think we all can agree it’s certainly not aesthetics

It's the sweet yo handles!

 

[blokey]

Stop making me want to buy aTF...well at the current market price is really not possible anyway...

 

[Barmoley]

Stop making me want to buy aTF...well at the current market price is really not possible anyway...

I don't know...this looks very, very reasonable for a 240 Denka with custom handle and saya.

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/...ka’s-and-heiji-spicy-white.61283/#post-941605

 

[tostadas]

Stop making me want to buy aTF...well at the current market price is really not possible anyway...

Still cheaper than prices were at this time last year

 

[Corradobrit1]

I think we all can agree it’s certainly not aesthetics

Not me. I find the rustic, throw anything at me TF aesthetic rather appealing. Certainly didn't get that feeling holding a Kono FM or Gesshin Kagekiyo.

 

[Bico Doce]

Not me. I find the rustic, throw anything at me TF aesthetic rather appealing. Certainly didn't get that feeling holding a Kono FM or Gesshin Kagekiyo.

Fair enough, I find Raquin appealing in the same way