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LOCATION
What country are you in?
usa

KNIFE TYPE
What type of knife are you interested in (e.g., chef’s knife, slicer, boning knife, utility knife, bread knife, paring knife, cleaver)?
santoku, k-tip is cool too

Are you right or left handed?
right

Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?
japanese

What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?
preferable ~180mm, 210mm max

Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)
no, preference to full carbon

What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?
preferably ~500. could stretch to 550-600 at an absolute limit

KNIFE USE
Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?
at home

What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for (e.g., slicing vegetables, chopping vegetables, mincing vegetables, slicing meats, cutting down poultry, breaking poultry bones, filleting fish, trimming meats, etc.)? (Please identify as many tasks as you would like.)
mostly veggies, some meat but nothing crazy

What knife, if any, are you replacing?
sorta replacing my gyuto but not really

Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for the common types of grips.)
pinch

What cutting motions do you primarily use? (Please click on this LINK for types of cutting motions and identify the two or three most common cutting motions, in order of most used to least used.)
push pull, not much rock

What improvements do you want from your current knife? If you are not replacing a knife, please identify as many characteristics identified below in parentheses that you would like this knife to have.)
i have a stainless gyuto that i like, but as my cooking skills have gotten better i kinda want to treat myself to something nicer. i was able to borrow a friend's 180mm santoku, so i know its the style that fits best for my kitchen/what i cook. i also have a few less expensive full carbon knives so im not worried about maintenance. im a patina enjoyer so im kind of partial to something that wears well with age.

so far ive been torn between Choyo (just not a big fan of mirror finishes), HADO B1Ds, some Nakagawa x Myojin ones, but just wanted to put some feelers out in case there's anything else interesting i might be overlooking or if any of the ones i mentioned really stand out above the others.


thanks!!
 
With a Santoku/Bunka in this price range you don‘t just buy a knife, you buy legacy.

If i was you i would go for a Togashi 180mm Bunka Blue1/White1 with stainless cladding.
They have kind of a flat profile what might fit to your cutting styles and a nice convex grind, wich in my opinion is better bc you can thinn them yourself if necessery at a certain time.

What also could be a good choice is a Fujiwara Teruyaso. (if you get one ^^)
This might take a while of researching shops cause they are pretty much always sold out.

Fujiwara knifes have probably the best food release out there..
 
For that money I'd definitely contact @MSicardCutlery and have him make me one. He does a lot of santoku's. Then I'd probably ask him to send it to @KasumiJLA for one his custom handles. Matt and Julien have a collaborative effort sometimes and the end result is stunning. Although, in fairness, Matt is perfectly capable of making a nice handle if you want to simplify things but their combination efforts sure are pretty.

You can see the start of them here:
https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/...le-gallery-of-my-creations.66220/post-1064000

Matt has made several knives for me and they are all excellent.

Both of those gentlemen are active on the forum and easy to reach.
 
Since you’ve listed Sakai 180 santoku options (aka ok with ~170mm) and seem interested in damascus, @nhb22 has this JNS Tanaka special 170mm gyuto listed at a great price - and it has a whoppin 54mm of height so some extra knuckle clearance and benchscraping functionality if you’re into that.

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/...ns-tanaka-jns-toyama-saji.69774/#post-1076086

He’s also got a Shigefusa 170mm santoku listed if you’re in it for the culture and alloy banding.
 
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Thanks @Blumbo Here is the Shig.

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/shigefusa-kurouchi-165mm-wa-santoku.69939/

Didn’t come here to be a salesman, but I do think the Shig is a strong candidate for a 170mm santoku in your price range. Among my listings, I also have a 165mm Takada (Tsubaya version) ginsan santoku which I’m selling at a much lower pricing point than your budget - a great little knife that I’m selling at a pretty big discount. I’m in NYC as well. Shipping likely very fast and cheaper. We can discuss discount if you are interested in these santokus that I have.:)
 
You can’t fail with the Nakagawa x Myojin still my favorite, but I will say not great food release. I am trying to save a little money to get a santoku or bunka as well.
 
Not to derail the thread, but how does one go about asking for custom size for the santoku?
Email Michael at [email protected]. He's great to work with.

I'd order an Okubo if I was in OP's shoes as well. As a matter of fact, I have a nakiri en route after ordering an Okubo gyuto through Michael last fall.
 
havent forgotten about the thread, just been very busy with work. the shig seems like it could be the one, but the custom options are pretty interesting, esp @MSicardCutlery and @KasumiJLA. i hadnt considered going the custom route before. ill certainly keep my options open for a little bit longer before committing :) thanks everyone!!
 
Not to derail the thread, but how does one go about asking for custom size for the santoku?

Email Michael at [email protected]. He's great to work with.

I'd order an Okubo if I was in OP's shoes as well. As a matter of fact, I have a nakiri en route after ordering an Okubo gyuto through Michael last fall.
What @False_Cast said. I ordered custom Okubo Nakiri that way. He has been getting more orders because of this site I think, so more of a wait now.
 
What @False_Cast said. I ordered custom Okubo Nakiri that way. He has been getting more orders because of this site I think, so more of a wait now.
Yes, that is true too. I think the site says "usually under a week to dispatch." My gyuto order last fall was about a month from order to shipping. I placed another order on January 14 that did involve some minor custom specifications. I have not been notified that it's ready yet. Michael is very transparent about the shipping times via email. I'd recommend checking with him.
 
I recently ordered an Okubo santoku via Michael, on January 16. Michael mentioned that Okubo san was working through the end of year backorders and it should take about 3-4 weeks for my blade to arrive. He also mentioned that he does not like to chase Okubo san for updates on knife status, but they always arrive.
 
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