Kasumi on monosteel

[Knivperson]

Hey.

I have this masakane monosteel petty. Im wondering if I can put on a kasumi finish on it with uchi fingerstones. I know there won't be any contrast, but is it possible to make a kasumi finish on it?

 

[KasumiJLA]

You can definitely polish your bevel with finger stones. You gonna achieve that haziness, without the contrast. Give it a try and post your results

 

[Knivperson]

Ahh sharpened already. Doing it for a friend. He wanted the patina left after all but thanks

 

[Knivperson]

 

[refcast]

Some old Japanese monosteel knives are soft near the spine or handle and you can polish to show contrast

https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/240mm-takahashi-hamono-gyuto.66035/

 

[Choppin]

Love those old Masakane... you can definitely play with the polish on monosteel knives in different ways.

I have a 180 Masakane gyuto that I'm planning on thinning a bit and then polishing the first 10mm or so up to 2-3k on the stones. Then sandpaper the rest of the blade face up to 600 grit parallel to the edge, removing the vertical grind marks. The end result should look a bit like Goko Kogetsu gyutos, but with a finer finish on the blade face (photo from Strata).

 

[Choppin]

Faux shinogi, real kasumi

Sakai Kikumori Nihonkou 210mm, SG 8kHC on fake hagane, Ohira Tomae on fake jigane, “snow” finish on fake hira

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this is also really cool

 

[Knivperson]

this is also really cool

Kinda reverse also. Usually kasumi on the jigane and mirror on hagane?

 

[blokey]

You can mask some potion and get a fake contrast

 

[ethompson]

Is kasumi being used to describe a misty "scratch free" finish or a contrasty finish like you'd see on san mai?

 

[Knivperson]

Is kasumi being used to describe a misty "scratch free" finish or a contrasty finish like you'd see on san mai?

No 1

 

[ethompson]

I mean sure, it's totally possible. Going to be a serious nightmare getting there though. Polishing that much hardened steel is a ton of work. Soft and slightly coarser suita / tomae / akapin will be your friends if you go that route.

I'd recommend doing a nice hand sanded 800 grit hairline finish and then using stone powder to make it a bit softer looking instead of chasing kasumi in this application.

 

[Choppin]

Soft and slightly coarser suita / tomae / akapin will be your friends if you go that route.

This is something I'm looking for right now - good Jnats to polish double bevel knives with convex bevels (not wide bevels). Not only monosteels, but also something like Toyama (migaki version, not the KU).

I guess softer stones are the key? I'm not planning on going super fine, just a nice working finish (Natsuya level).

 

[ethompson]

This is something I'm looking for right now - good Jnats to polish double bevel knives with convex bevels (not wide bevels). Not only monosteels, but also something like Toyama (migaki version, not the KU).

I guess softer stones are the key? I'm not planning on going super fine, just a nice working finish (Natsuya level).

Soft help with blending it all together for sure, but the real key is getting the geometry right which is a serious endeavor

 

[M1k3]

Sand.
Blaster.

 

[Knivperson]

Sand.
Blaster.

Uchi.
Powder.
Blaster?

 

[M1k3]

Uchi.
Powder.
Blaster?

Sounds like something for @ethompson's store

 

[ethompson]

Sounds like something for @ethompson's store

this sounds promising