I have no problem with Mastre Andre! In fact, I bought his KS.
The Fujiyamas are reserved for the big boys. Sorry you can't play!
oh c'mon, just leave
I have no problem with Mastre Andre! In fact, I bought his KS.
The Fujiyamas are reserved for the big boys. Sorry you can't play!
Ripping people off on any used knife is pitiful no matter the demand...go rip people off on ebay instead of this community.
I wonder if it would be reasonable if there were a BST rule that a WTS thread must include what the seller paid for the knife or how much they're "in for", e.g.:
WTS - Masamoto KS w/saya, paid $340 new, offered for $310
or
WTS - Masamoto KS w/saya & custom koa handle, paid $340 new + $125 rehandle, offered for $700
...the point being not so much to address whether price-to-market is fair or desirable here, but to at least provide a bare minimum disclosure of price discount or markup for potential buyers. Questions of damage, poor geometry, etc. still remain of course, caveat emptor, ...
Thoughts?
I think it brings into play information that is (1) not particularly relevant yet might influence sales and (2) information that could be impossible to define and verify.
(1) Is it relevant if I was given the knife as a gift by a family member, bought it used at 50% retail, or bought it new at retail? Would we want that information to impact an offer made on the knife? Presumably, the person who bought it used would receive lower offers than the one who bought it new, but there is no difference between the knives for sale.
(2) Then there are issues related to defining the information: What if there was a trade. For example, what if I got the knife I'm selling as part of a deal where I I received two used knives and $75 cash in exchange for one knife that I traded away? How in the world would I assign my paid-for price to a resale of one of those blades? Furthermore, if I by a knife for a given price and send it off to be rehandled and thinned, I could list those prices, but what if I did it myself. There is added value there and actual cost, but putting a real number to that cost would be nearly impossible.
Frankly, I see too many issue to make such a thing work. It's an interesting notion, but I think it's impractical.
Personally, I've paid 3x original price for a collectible item I coveted - but I did my homework and knew what I was doing.
Not your place to make that call for someone else unfortunately.Even if someone is THAT into shiraki, it makes more sense to buy one of his knives that retail for $1200, not pay $1200 for one of his knives that retail for $530 for $1200. Whatever, let people make their own decisions I guess.
Not your place to make that call for someone else unfortunately.
By that logic the individual you're pursuing as unethical is within his rights as a forum user to do as he pleases..where does that leave you?I can make whatever points I feel like making though. Thats the point. This is a forum.
This, coupled with the fact that there are no clear forum rules regarding pricing and volume of sales in the classifieds...so people whining about it is the same as the local elderly man yelling at the clouds, it makes them feel good, but it changes nothing to anyone.Supply and command.
By that logic the individual you're pursuing as unethical is within his rights as a forum user to do as he pleases..where does that leave you?
Everyone chill out. Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head and making them spend their hard earned cash on a so-so knife that was popular a decade ago for its low price tag and European feel.
It's a free world (no matter what people try and tell you) do as you please and let people do their thing as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
This isn't about rules, it's about etiquette...this used to be a gentleman's forum...
Fujiyama, Im curious why it bothers you that some people are selling KS $200 above retail(master Andre is the only member I can think of that did this) and yet you yourself have no problems attempting to sell konosuke Fujiyamas for nearly $500 above retail?
How do you justify that?
This isn't about rules, it's about etiquette...this used to be a gentleman's forum...
Pete,
I asked a reasonable question. It actually was hardly even offensive or thread crapping. Unless facts are considered offensive. Indeed, why would one hate the markups on one knife yet do the same in worse degree to a different knife. Fujiyama never answered.
I think you answered your own question and premise. The need to protect the public from themselves is a popular theme these days. Adults buying luxury items are in no danger of being hurt and should be responsible for their own decisions. Doing anything else is disrespectful, elitist and just plain impractical. Everyone on the forum is capable of doing their homework and know what they are doing, no need for hand holding. If I don't like the price of an item I don't buy it. We see it all the time on BST, some items sell out in minutes some need price adjustment to sell, there is no issue if the item is accurately represented...
Pete,
I see your position. I really do. But I was responding to post in this thread that is pertinent to the KS. My response is somewhat pertinent to the KS. I cant help it if others deviate from KS discussion 😀.
Pete,
I asked a reasonable question. It actually was hardly even offensive or thread crapping. Unless facts are considered offensive. Indeed, why would one hate the markups on one knife yet do the same in worse degree to a different knife. Fujiyama never answered.
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