In general I don’t think mods are reviewing every post unless it is reported, given the current rules. I don’t see why adding new rules would change that. Not saying we need to add rules though.
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It's only a standard if it is measured and enforced. Otherwise is just a nicety. I think @daveb is advocating for more niceties.
It would be a good idea to have a few stickies showing an appropriate way to best post something for sale especially knifes and stones, and to help buyers understand what they should be looking for and shouldn’t be looking for with regard to that particular item
It would set a standard and the enforcement would be up to the community instead of relying on the mods for everything
We don’t need some absolute God like power on a forum to stoke down with a lighting bolt, what we need is for people to act like mature intelligent adults that want to do good business with one another
If somebody new to the hobby or even somebody old to the hobby who simply makes a mistake and is upset due to that error, we can always ask them; “Did you refer to the step by step standard?”, and if they did not then the fault is with themselves as the responsibility of following that standard is up to those individuals and holding others to that standard as well
I will buy this.i found this set of knives at a local garage sale. I don’t know much about them , but I think they look pretty nice and the points are very pointy. I paid alot for them but my girlfriend doesn’t like the squiggly lines and thinks the handles are boring so I’ve decided to sell them and buy some Shun . To be honest they are a bit dull so I can scrub them with a Brillo pad and get them nice and shiny if you’d like . First $2500 by Friends and Family and they’re yours! Postage is an extra $15 . Thanks! Fake drsmp
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When will you be submitting your offerings for sticky consideration?
FWIW, pretty much all the BST threads I've looked at, and I tend to look at them all as it helps me get educated on knives, seem like they are posted by and engaged in by mature intelligent adults that want to do business together.
i'm not trusting anyone who I haven't dealt with before that insists on friends & family. that is a major red flag. I don't care about tax inconvenience that's on you as the seller..
when I am the seller, I would never ask to be sent f&f, even amongst friends. they just do it on their own accord because there is no need for the buffer.
cheap assYea, it’s better if it’s buyer initiated. However, if it weren’t for the paypal policy to the contrary, I’d definitely support asking the buyer to pay the paypal fees, which is a different thing.
cheap ass
Not 'theoretically' -- it IS. You get taxed on the net gain. Conversely, you may have a net loss, but I'm not sure if you can get reduced taxes due to that loss.If the IRS is going to attach income; then the cost of the knife that was used to generate the income is important and theoretically deductible.
I am not an accountant but a basis for determining capital gains is customary in all other market sales.
I alway bought from BST with the understanding that ‘All Sales Are Final, No Returns,’ …unless knife got totally f***ed in transit.I suggest adding something like this to the rules. If not, people may consider using it in their bst post.
Refund and Return Policy
All returns must be started within 14 days of the date of delivery
All returned items must be in the original condition and in the complete original packing in order to be accepted and credited.
If there are signs of misuse, or if there is other post-purchase damage on the product such as rust, scratching, or honing, items are not accepted for returns.
* Returns are accepted on the purchase price of items, within 14 days of the delivery date. Refunds will be be applied to the original method of payment
* Shipping costs and transaction fees are not refundable. If free shipping was used, the original shipping costs will be deducted from the refund value
* Knives cannot have been used in any capacity
* Unless the item is blatantly misrepresented, return shipping is at the buyer's expense. Please use a trackable shipping service and consider purchasing shipping insurance and Signature Confirmation for returns.
* Buyers have the option to insure/require a signature for their packages, therefore the seller is not responsible for replacing lost, stolen, or damaged products during shipment caused by the courier.
* Items shipped overseas will have the selling price listed as the customs value and will not be sent as gifts.
* Items must be as described.
* Items listed as new and unused must not show signs of use or damage.
* Items list as used must describe all signs of use or damage.
F&f is also the only way to sell items to the EU when a prospective buyer asks the seller to lower the declared value to avoid VAT leaving you unable to insure the item.
I alway bought from BST with the understanding that ‘All Sales Are Final, No Returns,’ …unless knife got totally f***ed in transit.
With your biz, what’re valid reasons for a knife being returned?
Who handles disputes? Kkf isn’t selling the knife.
Cheers! Good points.Personally, I think KKF should let people buy and sell as they wish, just stay out of it. As it is, KKF requires PP merch, which puts all of the risk on the seller.
The important thing is to have a clear return policy outlined in the sale to balance the risks. If you want to say ‘All sales final’, then clearly outline it, don’t assume it’s true. Unless there is a clear return policy the buyer can ship the knife back, demand a refund and PayPal will most likely rule in the buyer’s favor.
The likelihood of the buyer being corrupt is just as likely as the seller being corrupt.
It balances out, as many have lower income taxes.Some Euro friends of mine get screwed by VAT.
Yeah, not touching that one.Annnnnnnnnndddddd... Politics.
Yeah, not touching that one.
Yeah, I’ve just shoved my bag affixed with political buttons under the sofa for this thread.Yeah, not touching that one.
Unfortunately, having "All sales final" or other return policy verbiage doesn't preclude PayPal from siding with the buyer and forcing the seller to refund. If you refuse to take the item back the buyer gets to still get a refund and keep the item. Great idea to have a refund, return policy, but don't expect PayPal to care. What has worked is when the buyer sends back the item broken or in a different shape than when it left the seller. In such cases both buyer and seller could get refunds from paypal even though the seller still eats shipping costs. It is basically up to paypal, sometimes it feels like it is up to an individual agent dealing with your particular case and their understanding of paypal rules.Personally, I think KKF should let people buy and sell as they wish, just stay out of it. As it is, KKF requires PP merch, which puts all of the risk on the seller.
The important thing is to have a clear return policy outlined in the sale to balance the risks. If you want to say ‘All sales final’, then clearly outline it, don’t assume it’s true. Unless there is a clear return policy the buyer can ship the knife back, demand a refund and PayPal will most likely rule in the buyer’s favor.
The likelihood of the buyer being corrupt is just as likely as the seller being corrupt.
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